Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

02/20/2007 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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07:59:26 AM Start
07:59:26 AM Subcommittee Report
08:01:38 AM HB126
08:19:31 AM HB88
09:02:03 AM HB117
09:16:31 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 109 DISCLOSURES & ETHICS TELECONFERENCED
<Postponed Pending Subcommittee Report>
*+ HB 126 DRIVER'S LICENSES AND PERMITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 117 PROCLAMATION CALLING A SPECIAL SESSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 88 TVS AND MONITORS IN MOTOR VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 88(STA) Out of Committee
HB 117-PROCLAMATION CALLING A SPECIAL SESSION                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:02:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  last order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL NO.  117, "An  Act relating to  proclamations issued  by the                                                               
governor calling the legislature into special session."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM   WRIGHT,  Staff,   House  Majority   Office,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, presented  HB 117 on  behalf of  Representative John                                                               
Harris, prime  sponsor.  He  said the proposed  legislation would                                                               
direct the governor or administration  to give a 30-day notice in                                                               
calling  a special  session rather  than  a 15-day  notice.   The                                                               
exception would  be at  the end  of a regular  session or  in the                                                               
event that a disaster notice is given, he said.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:03:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    GRUENBERG   said    he    supports   HB    117.                                                               
Notwithstanding that,  he questioned  whether there may  be other                                                               
possible  reasons there  may be  a need  to call  a session  more                                                               
quickly.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:03:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT said  the two exceptions in the bill  were pointed out                                                               
to the sponsor by Legislative Legal and Research Services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN, after ascertaining that  there was no one to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:04:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  directed attention to a  handout in the                                                               
committee  packet which  shows an  excerpt of  AS 26.23.020.   He                                                               
pointed  to the  first  part  of subsection  (k),  which read  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          (k) The governor may expend more than $500,000 of                                                                     
     state funds to cope with  an incident under (h) of this                                                                    
     section or more than $1,000,000  of state funds to cope                                                                    
     with a  disaster under  (i) of  this section  under the                                                                    
     following circumstances:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  pointed out that subsection  (k) refers                                                               
to subsection (h), which read as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          (h) The governor may expend during a fiscal year                                                                      
     not more than  $500,000 of state funds  per incident to                                                                    
     prevent,  minimize, or  respond  to the  effects of  an                                                                    
     incident  that may  occur or  occurs in  the state  and                                                                    
     that,  in the  determination of  the governor,  poses a                                                                    
     direct and imminent threat  of sufficient magnitude and                                                                    
     severity  to  justify  state action.  Before  expending                                                                    
     funds under this subsection to  respond to an incident,                                                                    
     the  governor shall  provide a  financing plan  to cope                                                                    
     with  the  incident  to the  legislature  in  the  same                                                                    
     manner  prescribed for  disaster  emergencies under  AS                                                                    
     26.23.025(a).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG offered  a scenario  in which  imminent                                                               
danger is  outside the  boundary of the  state, but  the governor                                                               
may want  to call  a special  session to prepare  the state.   He                                                               
said, "I  just want  to give the  governor the  broadest possible                                                               
ability to respond."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL said he thinks  the language in subsection                                                               
(h) includes preventative measures.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:07:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WRIGHT  concurred  with Representative  Coghill.    He  also                                                               
directed attention to the language  of [subsection (k), paragraph                                                               
(2), subparagraph (B)], which read as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          (B) the presiding officers of both the house of                                                                       
     representatives  and the  senate agree  that a  special                                                                    
     session  should  not  be convened  and  so  advise  the                                                                    
     governor in writing.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  noted   that  subsection   (h)  [text                                                               
provided previously]  refers to an  incident "that may  occur" in                                                               
the  state.   He  said  he  just wants  on  the  record that  the                                                               
committee has discussed  this issue and it  believes the governor                                                               
would have  the power to call  a special session more  quickly in                                                               
the event of "one of these incidents."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT said he thinks common sense will prevail.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:08:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL, returning  to the issue of  a 30-day notice,                                                               
said she,  as a freshman  legislator, would like  some historical                                                               
perspective as to whether "this  has been a sufficient problem in                                                               
the past to warrant this."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL related that in  the 9 years he has served                                                               
on the legislature, he has seen  13 special sessions.  He said he                                                               
can recall  only one year during  which he has gone  home on time                                                               
since 1998.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOLL  asked,  "Would  the 30  days  have  made  a                                                               
difference in this?"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  answered  yes.   He  said  most  of  the                                                               
special sessions were  called while the legislature  was still in                                                               
regular   session,  for   considerations   both  economical   and                                                               
political.  He continued:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The issue  that we  dealt with last  year was  that the                                                                    
     governor, in  trying to put  together a  pipeline deal,                                                                    
     kept us ready  to come back ....  He  expected any week                                                                    
     that he would get some  agreement.  And there were many                                                                    
     people  who weren't  able  to  get gainfully  employed,                                                                    
     because  they couldn't  guarantee their  employers that                                                                    
     they would  be able  to work for  more than  two weeks.                                                                    
     And so,  this would, at  least, give some  certainty to                                                                    
     that, and I think that it's appropriate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT  indicated that Representative Coghill's  point is one                                                               
of the  main reasons for  introducing HB 117.   He said  the bill                                                               
would give legislators and their  staff more time to find housing                                                               
in order to prepare for the special session.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN said  this issue  affects  legislators' families,  as                                                               
well.   He  said he  agrees  with the  sponsor's proposed  30-day                                                               
notice.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  said the  current option  the legislature                                                               
has to  call itself  in to  a special  session with  a two-thirds                                                               
vote would still remain.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WRIGHT confirmed that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:12:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG,  regarding  the language  on  page  1,                                                               
lines  7-8,  "or  within  one  hour after  the  first  house  has                                                           
adjourned", said he  would be amenable to allowing 2  to 6 hours.                                                           
He said the legislature has  sometimes adjourned "at some ungodly                                                               
hour" and giving more time would  allow the governor to issue the                                                               
proclamation before 1 a.m.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:12:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  reminded Representative  Gruenberg  that                                                               
there have  been times  the legislature has  adjourned at  4 p.m.                                                               
and legislators  were on the airplane  by 6 p.m. the  same night.                                                               
He  said it  is important,  therefore, to  make the  proclamation                                                               
within  an  hour -  before  anyone  has a  chance  to  get on  an                                                               
airplane.   He  said, "Once  you  get people  scattered all  over                                                               
Alaska, it's very expensive to get them back."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said  he can think of  a circumstance in                                                               
which a governor would want  the legislature to reconsider a bill                                                               
that either did  not pass at the  last minute or did,  but not to                                                               
the governor's liking.  He said  the governor might not know that                                                               
a special session  is necessary "until the  presiding officer had                                                               
gaveled out."  The one hour  time limit could be a crucial point.                                                               
He  said  he won't  offer  an  amendment  or  hold up  the  bill;                                                               
however, he  stressed the importance of  further consideration of                                                               
the issue.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:15:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  encouraged Representative  Gruenberg to  explore that                                                               
issue in the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN, after ascertaining that  there was no one to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  moved to report  HB 117 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  HB 117 was reported out of the                                                               
House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                         

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